[Urwid] (not)Renaming Urwid and splitting up the repo
Ian Ward
ian at excess.org
Mon Sep 15 22:11:29 EDT 2008
Sascha Silbe wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 11:50:15PM -0400, Ian Ward wrote:
>
>>>> I didn't think of that. Do you have another name in mind?
>>> Why don't you keep "Urwid"? That name is unique (!) and doesn't look
>>> as noncreative as conui, consoleui or whatever. I like it. If I only
>>> had such good names for my own projects. :)
>> It is unique, and maybe Urwid sounds better in German than English :-)
> Probably. What about just declaring the (german) pronounciation on the
> home page? ;)
Yes, I could do that. And I like the "ancestral widget" meaning Rebecca
mentioned.
>> I believe that giving the project a more meaningful name will help
>> people know at a glance if it might be of interest to them, and later
>> remember the project name.
> I don't think conui or consoleui is much more descriptive. In my
> experience, most package names are either some kind of technical
> function description (like daemontools, pcb, gpsd) or a chosen name that
> doesn't directly (i.e. without reading the description) reflect the
> function (e.g. Apache, KDE, Firefox).
> Technical function names: Most often there are several similarly or even
> identically named projects that in the best case represent something
> completely different (daemon tools CD emulation [1]) and in the worst
> case it's a directly "competing" product (e.g. GPSd [2] - apperently
> down ATM - or NCSA httpd vs. CERN httpd [3]).
> Unique names: You need to read the description to gather what it does,
> but you'd need to do that anyway since even a technical function name
> doesn't give you enough details (console UI? for what application? Win32
> or game console? etc.). Distinctive names are easier to remember, which
> might even help adoption. Often enough, I remember having seen some
> interesting library somewhere that I now would have a use for now, but
> don't find it anywhere because there are so much similarly named things
> that it's like finding a needle in a haystack. Just take a look at the
> Google results for "consoleui". Wouldn't find urwid anywhere in there.
> Instead, take a look at the 517 matches for "urwid". Apart from usual
> SPAM entries, every single one (well, at least those I checked :) )
> actually is about this project!
Your arguments are good, and more than a few people like the current
name. Also, changing the name is a long and boring process with lots of
other drawbacks.
So I will save "conui" for the eventual C port of Urwid (just because
someone uses a lesser language doesn't mean they should be stuck without
a good console UI library)
Ian
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